About Us

Michael Shaw, creator and host

Michael Shaw is an artist and podcast host and producer based in Los Angeles. While working as an artist and writing about art, in late 2011 he started The Conversation Art Podcast, a show that “goes behind the scenes and between the lines of the contemporary art worlds.” Inspired by his own experiences holding down a variety of jobs and projects over the years to support himself, and wanting to reach a wider audience than the niche of the art world, he created How I Get By to address concepts including day jobs, living on a wide spectrum of income levels and general work/life satisfaction. You can sample his art at michaelshawstudio.com

Maia Laperle, producer and collaborator

Maia Laperle is an interdisciplinary artist, podcast producer, and educator living in Portland, OR. She is passionate about creating interactive forms of art and media. Maia received a degree in Fine Arts from Massachusetts College of Art and Design in Boston, MA, and has worked to promote art in her communities through teaching, volunteer work, and assisting adult artists with special needs.